Microsoft DOS 7.10 - For DOS Lovers

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AAH

2004-08-21 21:58:24 UTC

From
http://k-semler.filetap.com/

Click "Operating Systems"
in the lefthand colmn and then
navigate in righthand colmn.
to
Microsoft DOS 7.10

Disk 1
Disk 2
CD Image
Boot Disk
Miniature Windows 3.11 GUI (1.2MB)
Miniature Windows 98 GUI (6.6 MB)

This is a creation by Wengier of the China DOS Union. This is the DOS
version behind Microsoft Windows 98. MS-DOS 7.10 was never released as a
stand-alone operating system, but thanks to Wengier, it now is. New
features over MS-DOS 6.22 include native LFN support, native FAT32 support,
Y2k compliant, Updated HIMEN.SYS for memory over 64 MB support, supports any
version of Windows, Etc. If you have a large hard drive such as those
supplied with newer computers, but only want a minimal DOS system with
Windows 3.11, then this OS is for you. Although this is not an official MS
product, it is very stable, ans sutable for any DOS deployment. The Boot
disk is a standard Boot disk with support for USB devices, SCSI support, and
CD ROM support enabled. The CD image is a bootable ISO with both disk 1 and
disk 2 included on it. The regular DOS installation set is bootable from
Disk 1 just as a standard DOS installation disk. The GUI sets are a slimmed
down, pre-configured UI of thier respectfully named Windows version. Thank
you to Wengier for creating this installation set that breathes life into
DOS once again.

Dick Kistler

2004-08-21 22:58:00 UTC

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Post by AAH
From
http://k-semler.filetap.com/
Click "Operating Systems"
in the lefthand colmn and then
navigate in righthand colmn.
to
Microsoft DOS 7.10
Disk 1
Disk 2
CD Image
Boot Disk
Miniature Windows 3.11 GUI (1.2MB)
Miniature Windows 98 GUI (6.6 MB)
This is a creation by Wengier of the China DOS Union. This is the DOS
version behind Microsoft Windows 98. MS-DOS 7.10 was never released as a
stand-alone operating system, but thanks to Wengier, it now is. New
features over MS-DOS 6.22 include native LFN support, native FAT32 support,
Y2k compliant, Updated HIMEN.SYS for memory over 64 MB support, supports any
version of Windows, Etc. If you have a large hard drive such as those
supplied with newer computers, but only want a minimal DOS system with
Windows 3.11, then this OS is for you. Although this is not an official MS
product, it is very stable, ans sutable for any DOS deployment. The Boot
disk is a standard Boot disk with support for USB devices, SCSI support, and
CD ROM support enabled. The CD image is a bootable ISO with both disk 1 and
disk 2 included on it. The regular DOS installation set is bootable from
Disk 1 just as a standard DOS installation disk. The GUI sets are a slimmed
down, pre-configured UI of thier respectfully named Windows version.
Thank
you to Wengier for creating this installation set that breathes life into
DOS once again.

Yes, what MSDOS might have been if Microsoft had not
dropped the ball.

However, It can't possibly be legal.

Dick Kistler

AAH

2004-08-21 23:42:24 UTC

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Dick
I myself do not know much about the
China DOS Union.
I thought it could be treated something like
DOS clone similiar to other dos clones
to get away with the legal hitch?

Yes, what MSDOS might have been if Microsoft had not
dropped the ball.

However, It can't possibly be legal.

Dick Kistler

Dick Kistler

2004-08-22 00:17:05 UTC

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Post by AAH
Dick
I myself do not know much about the
China DOS Union.
I thought it could be treated something like
DOS clone similiar to other dos clones
to get away with the legal hitch?

I don't think so. I think that the creator
just copied the files from various versions
of Windows, then tried them out together
to make sure that they work.

For instance, I think that the command.com
is from some version of Windows like 98.
The other dos files are similar.
The ntfs file support for dos also may be
pirated. I haven't been able to find free
ntfs support for dos that can read and write.

Microsoft may be looking the other way,
but I'll bet if you asked them, they would
tell you it is illegal. Personally, I think that
they should make an exception to their
EULA for packages like this and BartPE
that are used for emergency recovery.
My opinion that the tools that Microsoft
provides for XP recovery are poor. At least
for home users.

It is not unprecedented to make such an
exception. IBM allows you to do virtually
anything with their os, if you are doing it
solely for emergency system recovery and
not trying merely to evade their EULA.

Dick Kistler

I_won' (Jasper)

2004-10-22 03:15:03 UTC

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Sorry about this post being a bit late, but about a month ago I also
downloaded MS-DOS 7.10 and installed it and I was intimidated by the
device drivers and programs that went into config.sys and
autoexec.bat. I have been using MS-DOS 6.22 for years and, for my
needs, has been quite sufficient. The LFN (long file name support) and
a few other extras in 7.10 is very good, but I can get by without
them. I found that the copy command would work with LFN, but xcopy
would not. Also, LFN is not supported in MS-DOS networking and this
would have been a great thing had it been so. Xcopy help (xcopy /? )
states that it will not copy hidden files, but there is a switch to
say that it will. I have no confidence in it and I'll only use
Microsoft's versions. I also downloaded the Mini Windows 98 GUI and
had a lot of problems trying to install it. When I did get it going, a
number of errors of files missing would always display while the GUI
was loading. However, once it was up and running, it was a great File
Manager (Windows Explorer). I have tried to contact the China Dos
Union about these errors and problems and have requested help, but
they do not answer my e-mails and their forum has never worked.

Jasper

On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 20:17:05 -0400, "Dick Kistler"

Post by Dick Kistler

Post by AAH
Dick
I myself do not know much about the
China DOS Union.
I thought it could be treated something like
DOS clone similiar to other dos clones
to get away with the legal hitch?

I don't think so. I think that the creator
just copied the files from various versions
of Windows, then tried them out together
to make sure that they work.
For instance, I think that the command.com
is from some version of Windows like 98.
The other dos files are similar.
The ntfs file support for dos also may be
pirated. I haven't been able to find free
ntfs support for dos that can read and write.
Microsoft may be looking the other way,
but I'll bet if you asked them, they would
tell you it is illegal. Personally, I think that
they should make an exception to their
EULA for packages like this and BartPE
that are used for emergency recovery.
My opinion that the tools that Microsoft
provides for XP recovery are poor. At least
for home users.
It is not unprecedented to make such an
exception. IBM allows you to do virtually
anything with their os, if you are doing it
solely for emergency system recovery and
not trying merely to evade their EULA.
Dick Kistler

Jerry

2004-10-22 20:22:35 UTC

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Go to http://jpsoft.com and get the now free 4DOS - a superior replacement
for COMMAND.COM and with an excellent help screen.

Post by I_won' (Jasper)
Sorry about this post being a bit late, but about a month ago I also
downloaded MS-DOS 7.10 and installed it and I was intimidated by the
device drivers and programs that went into config.sys and
autoexec.bat. I have been using MS-DOS 6.22 for years and, for my
needs, has been quite sufficient. The LFN (long file name support) and
a few other extras in 7.10 is very good, but I can get by without
them. I found that the copy command would work with LFN, but xcopy
would not. Also, LFN is not supported in MS-DOS networking and this
would have been a great thing had it been so. Xcopy help (xcopy /? )
states that it will not copy hidden files, but there is a switch to
say that it will. I have no confidence in it and I'll only use
Microsoft's versions. I also downloaded the Mini Windows 98 GUI and
had a lot of problems trying to install it. When I did get it going, a
number of errors of files missing would always display while the GUI
was loading. However, once it was up and running, it was a great File
Manager (Windows Explorer). I have tried to contact the China Dos
Union about these errors and problems and have requested help, but
they do not answer my e-mails and their forum has never worked.
Jasper
On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 20:17:05 -0400, "Dick Kistler"

Post by Dick Kistler

Post by AAH
Dick
I myself do not know much about the
China DOS Union.
I thought it could be treated something like
DOS clone similiar to other dos clones
to get away with the legal hitch?

I don't think so. I think that the creator
just copied the files from various versions
of Windows, then tried them out together
to make sure that they work.
For instance, I think that the command.com
is from some version of Windows like 98.
The other dos files are similar.
The ntfs file support for dos also may be
pirated. I haven't been able to find free
ntfs support for dos that can read and write.
Microsoft may be looking the other way,
but I'll bet if you asked them, they would
tell you it is illegal. Personally, I think that
they should make an exception to their
EULA for packages like this and BartPE
that are used for emergency recovery.
My opinion that the tools that Microsoft
provides for XP recovery are poor. At least
for home users.
It is not unprecedented to make such an
exception. IBM allows you to do virtually
anything with their os, if you are doing it
solely for emergency system recovery and
not trying merely to evade their EULA.
Dick Kistler

Jasper

2004-10-23 10:00:19 UTC

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Thanks Jerry,

I went to that site and had a good look around. I'll download 4DOS 7.50 and
try it out.

Jasper

Post by Jerry
Go to http://jpsoft.com and get the now free 4DOS - a superior replacement
for COMMAND.COM and with an excellent help screen.